by Chrono Triggered » Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:28 am, Post My gut feeling says go with the ETF. If so, I think this would make your point stronger. You only get to invest in one for the next 40 years. If the expense ratio does drop as you say it will, the difference could be negligible. You may also want to check out the following VTWSX comparisons that investors often look for on Finny. Join our community, read the PF Wiki, and get on top of your finances! Dividend mutual funds generate income and lower risk.

You can buy against unsettled funds as long as you don't sell the same security again before the funds settle. Both VTSAX and VTWAX are mutual funds. I'd also add that MFs often have a minimum investment, which puts them out of reach for many new, young investors. lol. Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future - Niels Bohr | To get the "risk premium", you really do have to take the risk - nisiprius. If you think the Dollar will strengthen over the next few years that could artificially crush foreign investments, as has happened in the past. See Vanguard Total World Stock Index Fund (VTWAX) mutual fund ratings from all the top fund analysts in one place. Find the latest Vanguard Total World Stock Inde (VTWAX) stock discussion in Yahoo Finance's forum. VTWAX vs VT (i.e. share. I was reading about two-fund portfolios and noticed these two funds getting frequent mention. You say that you prefer mutual funds. The differences are minor and based mostly on your preferences, even though ETFs have a sexy/new perception these days. Which is absolutely going to happen. For MFs, you make investments with a procedure similar to a bank transfer: enter dollars and cents. My two cents is domestic > international. You can check out all comparisons Finny users have looked for here. VTWAX is the perfect compromise. It is incredibly tempting to base investment decisions on past performance with an expectation that the trends will persist, or that there must be some fundamental and underlying reason why one basket of stocks has and will continue to outperform another. MFs have higher expense ratios, all else equal, because they cost more to administer. Find the latest Vanguard Total World Stock Inde (VTWAX) stock quote, history, news and other vital information to help you with your stock trading and investing. The fund employs an indexing investment approach designed to track the performance of the FTSE Global All Cap Index. Income investors face a challenging market with record-low yields. The best retirement funds offer investors both income and growth for a secure tomorrow. TAMPs are turnkey asset management platforms that let you outsource investment management tasks. by bogledogle87 » Wed Sep 02, 2020 6:36 am, Post by Doctor Rhythm » Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:54 pm, Post

"Everything should be as simple as it is, but not simpler." Thanks so much for the info. Post In the case of Vanguard funds like the ones you listed, it’s a really small difference (like $30 annually per $100k invested). by rkhusky » Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:31 am, Post VTWSX is a newer fund without an Admiral Shares option - Vanguard tends to introduce Admiral Shares and decrease the expense ratio as fund holdings increase, so at some point it will probably be comparable to the ETF in terms of expense ratio. There is no boglehead argument for VTSAX it's just recency bias. Stupid question - why the difference? by abuss368 » Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:56 am, Post New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the personalfinance community. Chasing value without considering quality can lead to value traps. We're already seeing it. Now they use 40%. VTWSX has a lower 5-year return than VTWAX (7.15% vs 8.3%). It's simple and I like that. ETFs are priced by the market throughout the trading day. These funds fit investors who want a simple approach and leave the management to a pro. California Do Not Sell My Personal Information Request. VTSAX has a lower expense ratio than VTWAX (0.04% vs 0.1%).

No guarantees are made as to the accuracy of the information on this site or the appropriateness of any advice to your particular situation. Ambassador_Minimum wrote: ↑ Wed Sep 02, 2020 1:56 am I (40 YO) divorced was going to invest my Roth IRA funds ($200k) into VTSAX but then saw some recommended VTWAX (Vanguard Total World Stock Index Fund Admiral Shares). What? For ETFs, you make investments with the same procedure as a stock purchase: enter shares. VT is an ETF and VTWSX is the mutual fund version. A brokerage like Schwab will warn you about this when doing a trade. Past gains do not guarantee future returns. Both VTWAX and VTSAX are mutual funds. Learn more about how to better serve divorced clients and their financial needs. Capital gains are generally paid to mutual funds, while dividends are paid to ETFs. The "advantages" of ETFs essentially do not matter for long-term investors.

VTWAX is a mutual fund, whereas VT is an ETF.

While it's true that ETFs settle slower (2 days instead of just one), it doesn't matter if you're buying something else. Theyd rather have several lost decades (as japan already had) than accept mass immigration. Sure, you can combine both, but in what percentage? US corporations are increasingly global. Foreign stocks will do well when the US$ is weak, thus making foreign currency more affordable. I personally favor ETFs in brokerage because they are more easily transferable between various brokers. by ruralavalon » Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:19 am, Post Which do you choose?

ETF: you can do day trade or short term trade and use options, fund: you can't do anything above, but you can buy in with your lunch money. That is the most important factor for long-term investors. Both of the examples you gave are index funds. Bonds provide income with less volatility in a portfolio. For example, VTSAX has a $3,000 minimum, which makes VTI (no minimum) a more attractive option. The Fund employs an indexing investment approach to track the performance of the FTSE Global All Cap Index and attempts to sample the index. The world generally has more upside than the US cause prices are lower. by peterwantstosave » Wed Sep 02, 2020 6:39 am, Post I know several smart people that have 100% of their investment accounts in VT. See Disclaimer. As long as the US$ is strong, foreign stocks will have a currency exchange headwind. Vanguard once used 30% in TR and LS funds. Also, we have a better understanding of US economic policy than those of other countries. It would also let you hold your international stocks in a taxable account, allowing you to take advantage of the foreign tax credit. See Vanguard Total World Stock Index Fund (VTWAX) mutual fund ratings from all the top fund analysts in one place. So in most cases, ETFs are more tax efficient. For non-Vanguard situations, ETFs are slightly more tax efficient. 16, 2020. VTWAX has a higher expense ratio than VTSAX (0.1% vs 0.04%). These bond funds come with higher yields, but they also bring investors more risk. There's a lot of empirical research done on this topic as this is not necessarily a tried and true law and there are theories as to why some nations may not experience the effect, or the development/growth is lacking. Smart saving, stock, bond and real estate picks can squeeze extra returns from your investments. Who would you bet on: a plucky local startup or a multi-billion dollar corporation that has already captured market share in hundreds of countries and is willing to clone anything that works in their industry?

7-day free trial: Get unlimited comparisons, and stock, ETF and mutual fund analyses for just $14.95 a month, without ads. Some don't like Int'l much and use 20%. Have a question about your personal investments? I ran both funds through Vanguard's cost comparison calculator and it does seem that VT wins out.

I'm curious. I noticed that the expense ratio for the ETF is quite a bit lower than that of the mutual fund (.19 vs.35). They will simply not grow if half the work force is over 70. I (40 YO) divorced was going to invest my Roth IRA funds ($200k) into VTSAX but then saw some recommended VTWAX (Vanguard Total World Stock Index Fund Admiral Shares). The advisor attempts to sample the target index by investing all, or substantially all, of its assets in common stocks in the index and by holding a representative sample of securities that resembles the full index in terms of key risk factors and other characteristics. by RomeoMustDie » Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:52 am, Post VTSAX has a higher 5-year return than VTWAX (12.48% vs 9.02%). When living abroad, were you in different countries/continents? The advantage of ETFs is that they have low fees. The most important point is to pick a percentage and then stick with it - rebalancing as necessary.

by Ambassador_Minimum » Tue Sep 01, 2020 8:56 pm, Post Against the grain, but here's why: ive lived abroad for 10 years and I've realized some key points. The ultimate 1-fund diversified portfolio (for those looking to be 100% equity). Can you elaborate? Re: Trying to learn more about how VTWAX/VT updates « Reply #1 on: August 16, 2020, 11:21:59 PM » If you look on Vanguard Total World ETF (VT)'s portfolio page, you'll see each region listed as a percentage (last updated at the end of July). The catch-up effect refers to a theory speculating that poorer economies will grow more rapidly than wealthier economies, leading to a convergence in terms of per capita income. Go ad free.

If you are willing to move to a 3-fund portfolio, the VTSAX + VTIAX (Total US Stock Market & Total International Market Admiral shares) gives you a lower expense ratio with the added flexibility of being able to rebalance between the two. Fund data provided by Xignite and Morningstar. US v International is a sectarian issue here for some so I'm not sure you're going to get a definitive answer.

And as you said, they'd rather have a crisis than immigration to help resolve it. So, for example, if I have $0 cash in my brokerage account, I can sell some BND and then immediately buy some VTI for the same amount, even though the sell didn't settle yet. I would honestly say that savings rate matters more than which of these two funds. In some situations, customized portfolios are still a preferred choice. I would like to receive free Advisor Practice Management Guides, the U.S. News Advisor Weekly newsletter, and occasional updates regarding the U.S. News Advisor Directory. They will not ever ever accept immigration the way the USA does. The Fund seeks to track the performance of a benchmark index that measures the investment return of stocks of companies located in developed and emerging markets around the world. Developing nations can enhance their catch-up effect by opening up their economy to free trade and developing "social capabilities," or the ability to absorb new technology, attract capital, and participate in global markets.". Use of this website constitutes acceptance of the Best Funds Terms and Conditions of Use. Falling interest rates and the appeal of diversification are two reasons to look elsewhere. I shares ACWI is world index. Taxable: 100% FSKAX. I can't guarantee US will stay on top and never have a Japan 1989/1990 event, so I'd rather have some international holdings.